The Immigration Question
Jean Raspail’s prescient 1973 novel begins with a million-strong horde of third world immigrants massed in giant transport ships off the coast of beautiful southern France. They are brought there from Calcutta, once again presciently, by a Belgian do-gooder. It ends with the internally and externally compromised state turning against the remaining indigenous French clustered in a village in southern France — and bombing them.
Raspail depicts the Indian horde that invades France in no uncertain terms. They are a teeming horde of degenerates sprung from the pages of a Lovecraft story — in my imagination the most likely being The Horror at Red Hook. Sexually degenerate, deformed and dysgenic, Raspail’s imagery of this horde is undoubtedly provocative.
“Racist”
“Xenophobic”
“Nativist”
“Anti-immigration”
These are just a few of the epithets right-thinking liberals have hurled at this novel for over half a century. Perhaps it’s unfortunate that our author wrote about the dregs of India, a point I will get to later. Interestingly, Raspail chose India over closer nations such as those of North Africa and the Middle East.
Charles Haywood, via The Worthy House, wrote an important essay discussing the novel, Raspail, and the dangerous threat to the west presented by mass third-world immigration, from which I quote:
[Raspail] used Indians, rather than much nearer Africans or Middle Easterners, as the raw material for his book because of “my refusal to enter the false debate about racism and anti-racism in French daily life,” and a desire not to exacerbate already-existing racial tension, given the “mighty vanguard” of Africans who had already, in 1973, established a strong beachhead in France.
There’s a huge irony there if one wishes to see it.
I would argue (and Raspail makes clear) the book is a parable — not a history text. In the proud and provocative grand French tradition Raspail succeeds in writing a truly scandalous novel that repels leftists and even many who consider themselves full-fledged members of “the right”.
The 1970s also brought us Malcolm Muggeridge’s The Great Liberal Deathwish — a must-read article (pdf) he wrote for Imprimis and speech he gave for anyone interested in understanding the trajectory of liberal/leftist culture and thought that brought us to this point.
I won’t dwell on Muggeridge’s piece here but the dynamics he presents are clear for all to see if they will allow themselves. The hysterical energy coming from the left today is a clear indicator that the mental structures through which they perceive reality are collapsing. This makes it a very dangerous but also decisive period in western history. We have the opportunity to reverse the trajectory of postwar western society now if we have the courage to seize it. What this means practically I will discuss later.
Haywood thinks Europe is lost. He writes:
Raspail saw that in 1973, and it is vastly clearer now. I mean, sure, you could imagine that the Europeans wake up some day, expel all invaders who have arrived since, say, 1950, along with their descendants, unless they first pass a rigorous screening for having totally assimilated and having no indicia of anti-European activity, and that the Europeans also start having four or five children per woman, while renewing themselves spiritually and becoming a virtuous people. Good luck with that.
I’m not sure we have to go quite so far back as to expel every arrival since 1950 either here or in Europe. My focus though is on the USA. One of my goals with this essay is to suggest ways we can bring the bulk of the people, the normies if you will, more fully onside in this war. I say more fully because stopping illegal immigration to the USA is an 80/20 question. The remaining problem regarding illegal immigration is ensuring our government no longer betrays the collective will of the people.
Now we need to win the debate on legal migration. The goal being to end it completely (or almost completely) for the foreseeable future. So how do we convince the normies, and any non-rabid liberals, that this is both desirable and practical?
One idea I keep coming back to is the why. Why is “legal” immigration such a serious problem? Why does the state maintain the existing systems regardless of who is in office? Yes, the liberal deathwish is real. Yes hysterical leftists want mass immigration. But to be frank — they don’t really matter. Let’s be real. If the big banks, big tech and large industrial and consumer megacorps did not have a habitual and incessant demand for the cheapest labor it would end tomorrow. Donald Trump would stop giving cringe interviews pronouncing garbage assertions like the US doesn’t have talent and our universities would fail without 600,000 Chinese students.
As for the universities I don’t know and don’t care. Let them fail. They’ve already failed at their essential task. As for the economic addiction to cheap labor — we have a serious problem there. Someone is going to have to take a hit. A big hit.
As Mark Mitchell, @honestpollster on twitter, reported on Alex Jones the other day after meeting with Trump and members of his administration, they are trying to fix things without breaking anything. That’s not going to work. According to Mitchell the administration truly wants to do something to help American workers while avoiding damage to our still-fragile economy. Still-fragile? Yes. 15 years after the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and we still haven’t recovered.
There are many long-running reasons for this but they all follow on from the Obama administration’s response to the financial crisis. Instead of breaking up the bankrupt megabanks and prosecuting the fraudsters in charge he rewarded them for their crimes. He pumped tens of trillions into the banking system to reinflate the bubbles. We’ve heard for a decade now that we’re in the “everything bubble”. It’s been so long there are finance bros in their mid-30s who have no idea that their entire self-enriching lives have been propped up by endless money printing.
Bubble economies are inherently unstable and fragile. A few months ago Boris Johnson admitted in an interview that the reason he opened the floodgates and created what we now call the “Boriswave” of mass immigration was because the City of London bankers told him the Yookay economy would collapse if GDP line stopped going up. Each new immigrant, on average, adds some paltry amount to GDP. GDP being the magical talisman used by national banks to encourage investment. The fact that there has been a collapse in the manufacture of British babies that massively accelerated in 2022 is ignored since one major reason for that is collapsing incomes and faith in the future.
The fact is Britain’s economy is going to collapse. There’s no avoiding it. The only good news is that many of the illegals sponging off the state will leave the minute the money runs out.
Fortunately in the US the situation is not quite so dire. Unlike Europe the US can, if it has to, revert to a state of autarky. Autarky is what Russia has largely achieved. Of course no developed nation is a full autarky — it’s a matter of degree. If Russia lost its ability to trade with China, India and much of the third world it’s economy would collapse. That’s true of the US as well. However, we have enough food, energy and raw materials to convert to a largely autarkic economy if we had to. It would be painful. Things would break. Banks would fail.
I’m not sure we have to go that far but we might. And things are breaking anyway. The test of the next 20 years will be if the US can eliminate its dependence on cheap foreign labor and reinvigorate our working classes. Demand is the economy and if the American worker isn’t buying the consoomer economy fails. If the right doesn’t offer solutions the left will. We know their solutions are financially illiterate and will lead to collapse so it’s up to us.
Thanks to the endless moneyprinter Obama made permanent the US is now a high cost economy. Everything that matters, with the exception of some kinds of energy, is very expensive: housing, education, healthcare, food, cars. So what has to happen? The housing market has to collapse. The healthcare system has to be restructured. Education costs must collapse. The middlemen who reap massive profits in the food and pharma industries have to be brought to heel. Private Equity must be eliminated. They add nothing and destroy everything they touch. The MBA class must be banished from the running of businesses. Their cookie-cutter approach to business management is practically illiterate. And finally the military industrial complex has to produce cheaper weapons so we can cut our military budget in half. Drones are the future of war. Cheap, plentiful drones.
And we must put severe limits on immigration. End the flood of H1-B, L-1, OPT and the litany of chain-migration and other programs that flood our nation with immigrants we don’t need and cannot afford. Bankers and big corporate say they need them. They must be broken of their addiction. They will have to start training Americans again. I know. It hurts. The American people have been eating it for decades. It’s time for their hurting to end.
Finally we must end the reverse-racism of disparate-impact, endless government programs for brown people and immigrants that white Americans cannot access.
Not all of this will happen but it’s a pointer to the direction we have to take as a society in order to reclaim our birthright as American citizens.
It’s not about whether we like or dislike immigrants. Nobody cared when Indians and other foreigners came to the USA in small numbers and became a part of the American fabric. Now that there are 1.5 billion Indians (thanks to the Green Revolution brought to India by an American) the dynamic has changed utterly and forever. We cannot ignore this fact.
So on the one hand we have this class of self-flagellating (who says they’ve renounced religion?) hysterical liberals and on other big corporate — both demanding mass immigration.
Raspail’s prescience continues:
The book is most of all an indictment of the Western self-hatred that has inevitably led to our destruction, which Raspail saw long before most did, written not in the dry format of graphs and statistics, but in a visceral, slashing way. The Camp of the Saints is half satire—in the same vein as Gulliver’s Travels, what Raspail himself calls “coarse humor,” though arguably the tone is more misanthropic and bitter than satirical. The other half is a tragedy. It shows insight into the mind of all classes of the French, and spares none. This is a gloomy book; there is no renaissance here. It is meant, explicitly, as Raspail said in 1985, as “symbolic, a parable. History is speeded up to happen [in the book] over the course of days rather than a couple of decades or a generation. . . . The Third World invasion of the West is unavoidable. If we don’t see it, our children will.” We are those children.
The weakness of Raspail’s book is also its strength. As a call to debate and action his portrait of the descending hordes is necessarily dramatic. Unfortunately reality usually is not. The space between is where the critics of the novel have driven their wedge.
While he doesn’t entirely dehumanize the Indians he portrays them as a debased forms of humanity. And in many cases that is true. The issue is that for most of the past 50 years of third-world immigration to the USA we have received their best. Mostly high-caste, intelligent, hardworking and dilligent elites from Asia, India, Africa, etc. In high school one of my friends was first generation Indian immigrant. He worked hard. Was well-spoken. Polite. He went to Cooper Union for engineering. We joked around a lot. I wonder how he’s doing. He was one of a handful of Indians in my graduating class of 800 at the Bronx HIgh School of Science — one of the specialized merit-based high schools Mamdani wants to eliminate because it’s allegedly racist that only a few blacks qualify every year.
Again the question before us is not whether we like or dislike individual migrants from the third world. Eugyppius coined the term migroid for the new third-world immigrant that has invaded his native land of Germany. Liberals took no time in condemning him in the same terms they use for Raspail or anyone who questions the massed hordes of low-IQ invaders. In one repulsive episode an American leftist writer living in Germany, CJ Hopkins, went on a twitter tirade against Eugyppius for daring to dislike the migroid hordes descending on the ancient German village that is his ancestral home.
So let’s distinguish here that not all migrants are migroids and that this confusion causes endless disquisition and friction on the right between the rightthinking Boomertards and the younger generations.
Do those of us who support very limited or no new immigration to western nations hate (or even particularly dislike) these immigrants? Well, it depends.
Some do and some do not. Some have experiences that make them like or dislike immigrants from certain countries. Some have little contact at all and think everything is fine. And like any question, the framing produces the answer. If I ask the question “do you generally favor legal immigration to the USA?” The answer is likely to be “yes I’m fine with it”. If, however, you ask “do you favor bringing in immigrants who will take jobs away from American citizens and put downward pressure on wages such that the American worker hasn’t had a real raise in 40 years?” the answer will be quite different.
And if you ask whether the US should allow brutish and submental immigrants from the worst hellholes on earth to legally emigrate the answer would be even more different. Though I’d add that a liberal would be deeply offended by the premise of the question itself and would immediately report you to the hall monitor for even asking.
Generally we have reasons for our value judgments but most of us understand that our experience is necessarily limited and doesn’t apply to everyone of that race or religion. And in fact, behaviors we may express online (where life is largely virtual), do not apply IRL.
I work with Indians everyday. Some of them are rude and pushy. Most are not. Not so very different from Americans in many ways. And like others, I too, enjoy Indian food on occasion. I’ve been eating Indian food for decades. I used to enjoy it far more often when we had a very fine local restaurant. They’re all cheap and suck now. Rent is through the roof here.
My experience in NYC working for large institutional employers will be very different from that of an engineer working in Duluth. In Duluth they don’t get the Indian cream of the crop. At many American corporations where Indians have taken over, from USAA (yes that USAA), to Intel, CapitalOne and many others, they aren’t getting the best. More precisely the problem seems to really arise when the proportion of Indians reaches a certain point. Once this happens they begin to recreate the disfunctional cultural milieu that makes India a shithole and are driving firms like Intel into the ground.
The stories I’ve read from others are worse than my experience. I’m sure some of those stories are written by resentful and angry types who blame others for their life problems. Sure. Some of them, though, are simply stating the truth. You can more or less tell the difference by the way they write their narratives.
The fact is we can have generally kind feelings toward people of foreign cultures and races and still think immigration is out of control; that it is cynically used by corporatists and the wealthiest to wheedle cheap labor at the expense of the citizenry.
We may express our frustration at this situation in various ways. Often it is directed at the foreigners because they are in our faces everyday, they are part of the problem, and they’re different. They can smell funny. They speak English in an annoying way. Some of them have cowshit festivals. It’s funny. Disgustingly funny.
And indeed their home nations may very well be shitholes (to borrow that pithy expression from Don Donaldo). That doesn’t mean they are. It doesn’t mean they aren’t. It’s a complicated world. When we discuss these issues with those we wish to convince I think its important to keep this in mind. The fundamental questions are what quality of immigrant are we letting in, how many is too many, and when is enough, enough?
I’ll start to round this piece out with another point I made in a note a few days ago. Before I continue I want to underline that I don’t consider the Ellis Island immigrants to be equivalent to the third-world immigrants that are arriving in this current wave. Some took me up on that question and I want to make it clear: assimilating European Christian and a small number of European Jewish migrants during the Ellis Island wave is a categorically different challenge to that posed by assimilating large numbers of Muslims, Hindus and other non-western peoples.
Now that’s out of the way:
When mass-immigrationists spout the “they said the same thing about Irish/Jews/Italians” remind them of this history.
The Ellis Island immigrant wave was massively disruptive to the native culture of late 19th/20th century America. Some of the new immigrants brought anarchist and communist ideas and immediately set out to overthrow the US government. The FBI was created in large part to counter these efforts. The RICO statute was passed to combat Italian/Jewish mafia racketeering and labor union corruption.
Both the FBI and RICO did serious damage to the Constitution. So let’s not pretend the natives didn’t have valid criticisms of the Ellis Island immigrant wave.
This history exists despite the fact that the vast majority of Ellis Island immigrants made sincere efforts to assimilate and become American. We’re still arguing about the effects of this wave and it ended in 1925.
If we look at the post-1965 wave we see something else. 60 years later and the earliest cohort — largely Caribbean, Latin-American and East-Asian immigrants — have assimilated to varying degrees but crime rates, particularly among Latin-Americans, are second only to African-Americans.
We cannot simply assume that Indians, Pakistanis, Somalis, Haitians, Muslims, Arabs — cultures with entirely different and opposing values — will assimilate anywhere near as well as the earlier waves. There are many reasons to think otherwise.
And it’s been 60 years since we, once again, opened our borders to mass immigration. It’s time to shut it down.
Here’s the original including the Lomez tweet that inspired it:
Indians are now the highest earning group in the US. Is that because they’re smarter than us? Of course not. Is it because many live in fear and are largely indentured servants and thus perform whatever tasks they are assigned without question? Is it because they hire each other over Americans? Is it because there is a huge pipeline of fraud feeding 1600 approved and re-approved H1-B applications per day? Is it because the system was designed to be abused? That India is a nation of 1.5 billion that depends on huge remittances from the US for economic stability? That tech and other firms have massive Indian offices and subsidiaries where they pay pennies on the dollar?
The answers to the above are all yes. As I said it’s a complicated problem. The solution has its complexities as well. The economic fallout from ending mass immigration is undeniable. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have to happen. If we’re to avoid a literal civil war and national collapse it has to happen. Some might say a divided, regionalized US would allow the liberals to have their country and the right to chart its own course. I think that would be a mistake.
The only answer is to shut down the litany of fraudulent and abused programs and force US firms to hire and train Americans again. The legal immigration system is built on massive fraud and is completely out of control. Even young Americans from the most connected families with elite educations are starting to feel the pinch.
We can talk about cultural destruction and incompatible cultures til we’re blue in the face — and these things are obviously real and important. It’s still not personal. These are group dynamics we are discussing. If we’re not in the business of rebuilding America for Americans what use is capitalism?
The left’s answer (because they know there’s a problem) is an obscenely retarded lie they call Abundance. This translates to flooding the country with immigrants from India till there are a billion “Americans”. This is sheer insanity. The kind of insanity we’ve come to know and expect from the left.
Immigration is the key issue. The only issue. It ties everything else together. I believe it is now firmly on the radar of the Trump administration. Mark Mitchell, in his Alex Jones interview, said (I paraphrase): the real question is if the old man can buck his titans of industry bullshit and wrangle the sleepy and dying Chamber of Commerce-captured RNC out of its stupor before it’s too late.
The legacy Republicans still think they can get back to business as usual — that MAGA/America First will die when Trump exits politics in three years. They will not. It will not. We will not. Their days of tying themselves to the mast while the American people toss and drown in the storm will end one way or another.
A few final points. Cultural generation is not a controlled algorithm. We get the good and the bad with every new group that arrives. The number of immigrants from specific cultures affects this of course and so does how radically different they are. There is also the problem that prior immigrant waves came without the enticements of welfare payments and opportunities for widespread welfare fraud — and it was a one-way trip. No more.
With ubiquitous and cheap worldwide communication and travel — and our marvelous celebration of diversity faggout — new immigrants have little motivation to become American. Liberals treat the idea of the melting pot many of grew up with as a form of genocide. Not for Americans of course. We don’t have a culture.
For these reasons we need to cut new immigration for a half century. If we ever were, we are no longer a responsible or resilient enough nation to take on such risk.
If the right fails to follow the path being laid out by the younger generations the result will be just as Raspail foresaw over half a century ago:
Alarm slowly grows in the West, but all press is censored by governments, who fear “racism” more than anything else. In one of the innumerable instances here of preternatural prescience, the government punishes anyone who suggests there may be a problem, both directly and by encouraging violence by Left thugs, Antifa analogues, against any who suggest the invaders may be a problem. Raspail, in fact, specifically refers to the actual “hate speech” laws passed in France in 1972, and their inevitable exclusive use, as has unsurprisingly turned out, to prevent whites from complaining about their abuse and replacement. Just ask the man in England who this week was sentenced to years in prison for distributing stickers containing mild anti-immigration sentiments.
As the “Last Chance Armada,” so dubbed by sympathetic talking heads, approaches France, the government does nothing but wring its hands, while offering worthless words about the ancient grandeur of the nation. Much of the book is a build-up to the crucial speech by the prime minister, right before the invaders land, to tell the nation what to do. He writes a speech in which he orders resistance by force; but as he gives the speech, his will cracks, and he simply tells everyone to follow his own conscience, which means nothing can or will be done to resist the invasion. Almost nobody in France, not just the elites, has the will to resist; they are all hollow men, unworthy of their ancestors, and by implication unworthy of keeping what their ancestors won and built. “For the West is empty, even if it has not yet really become aware of it. An extraordinarily inventive civilization, surely the only one capable of meeting the challenges of the third millennium, the West has no soul left.” The invaders run aground in southern France on Easter Sunday (Raspail is not particularly subtle), or at least the 800,000 who have not died on the way do, and sweep ashore.



“There is also the problem that prior immigrant waves came without the enticements of welfare payments and opportunities for widespread welfare fraud.”
Great point. My Grandad from Denmark and my Dad from England received nothing from government. My sister in law from Japan, and the partners of my nephews/nieces from the Philippines and Taiwan received very little from government. All of them had to make it on their own.
I am constantly astounded at the perks asylum seekers and illegal immigrants receive in Canada such as free healthcare, which a House of Commons committee found out is far better than what the average Canadian receives.
I do not have a personal problem with the Indians I work with on the daily. I know they are only looking out for their own self interest, as I would if I were them, but the idea that we "need" them and that Americans are incapable is an abject and disgusting lie. One American boy could easily do the work of the entire team of Indians the MBAs that run my org decided we would bring on to my team. It fills me with anger that this lie is not only continuously promoted in the media and that self-hating liberals run cover for it, but even the President repeats it. The financial/managerial class deserves extreme punishment for what they have done to our people in the name of GDP. If they complain that their scab labor will be made unavailable then they should be punished even more.